years old, that's 1 in 10,000 that can do that. she's a smart guy. he's a great negotiator. buff i think we understand each other. >> but he's still done some very bad things. >> yeah but so have other people have done some really bad things. i can go through nations where really bad things were being done. with all that said, the answer is yes. >> sure, executions, gulags, but he is a smart guy, tough guy. it sounds like the president is saying he did what he had to do. does that sound like a person you can trust in a nuclear negotiation? >> i might add, as it was for iran, is don't trust and verify, verify, verify. the verification challenge here in north korea is going to be immense. so the record of kim jong-un and his forebearers in terms of what they have done with the population is abyss mal. but right now we have a