administrations have been tough on our adversaries and it doesn't work. it's a short sighted strategy and it's completely opposed to our values. what's missing in our foreign policy right now. its values. there's no adherence or promotion of u.s. values going forward. >> phil, let me get your take on pompeo. he seemed outrage at a reporter's questions about why irreversible and verifiable were not in that statement and he said that it is ridiculous and frankly ludicrous to ask that question. his argument is that, using the term confident in the agreement, their confident they're going to work toward denuclearization, that that's the same thing. who's right? >> look, mike pompeo's a serious guy. i can understand why he said that, but give me a break.