least so far in this rally the president is not eager to draw attention to the executive order he signed today but i can tell you, anderson, after we've done some reporting throughout the day, one of the things that pushed him the most to change his mind was that he was losing the loyal support of his most loyal allies like senator orrin hatch. other republicans who are always with him, suddenly they weren't with him. so as the combination of that as well as the images that ivanka trump and melania trump talked to him about to urge him to change his mind and the fact they know it's bad politics heading into a midterm election, anderson. >> interesting. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. we'll continue to monitor the president's event. president trump says the signing of that executive order ending the policy of family separations at the border didn't mean an end to the administration's zero tolerance policy. as jeff mentioned. of course, that leaves a lot of questions unanswered. with me now to talk about the fallout, reverend darell scott, supporter of the president, and rick wilson, republican strategist, not a trump supporter, and author of the upcoming book, "everything trump touches dies." rick, do you believe the