the victory. >> all we're trying to do tkprb you keep saying there is a clear, concise message. what is the message? the message is that roe v. wade will be overturned. >> we'll have a nominee that respects the rule of law and not legislate from the bench. that is the gold standard. you saw from the gorsuch nomination. you saw it back from roberts. i mean, we're not going to nominate anyone who will ledge shraeult from t legislate from the bench. >> was there anyone the president particularly admired that he had in the back of his mind when he had gorsuch. >> i haven't had discussions with the president about that. >> all right. steve cheung, thanks for being with us. jeffrey toobin, always great to have you as well. lay it out there. lay it out for the american people so they can see. >> and because in this case there is not a lot of gray area.