you, of course, famously flipped on richard nixon during watergate. what's your read on what's going on here? is this a signal to the federal prosecutor? a signal to the president or both? >> i don't think it's both. i think he has an audience of one, really, and the way he did it in particular, and that is for trump. he floated this publicly so trump would know he is serious, where his thinking might be going. he doesn't talk to trump anymore. he doesn't really have any close links anymore. so this is a very public way to do it. you've got to also realize the fact that it was not on camera and wasn't recorded means it's pure hearsay. it's pure quoting of what he did or did not say. his lawyer or himself decided they didn't want a hard record of this public statement either. >> carrie, do you think this will have any effect on how prosecutors deal with cohen? >> well, it's interesting, john, because really, if michael