election which has important aspects in terms of the campaign finance laws. and then lastly, the kind of cover-up issue is why are they evenution this corporation to make the payments through? possibly requires more investigation. they want to do that to more distance him from the payments. >> there's a reference on the audio recording to a david. we presume it's david pecker, the publisher of american media, which is the parent company of the "national enquirer." what's the significance of that? >> it's the awareness issue. he says our friend david. clearly the president is not surprised of this issue. i think even the moment in the tape where cohen says i told you before and goes to his awareness that that publisher is involved. why are they having it made? >> significant development. trump is also heard saying something along the lines, and the tape is murky occasionally. paying with cash. it's muddled a little, that audio. not clear whether he suggests paying with cash, paying with a