rosenstein -- >> look, jeff sessions -- >> he recused himself. >> had to have recused himself because there's a regulation in place that says if you work on a campaign and there's a criminal investigation relating to that campaign -- >> the president says it was a bum move and he should have told him about it and it was a total hoodwink. >> wrong, wrong, wrong. as far as it being a hoodwink, sessions would have had to have had the gift of prophecy along with the president in order to believe at the time he was ainterest poed, there was was going to be to an investigation -- >> that's why i was confused by your initial writings on this one because of my respect for your mind and that rosenstein -- the only thing he could do is get a prophylactic in play, get somebody who had one layer away from the president, which technically a special counsel does, because otherwise he could have been fired like that if he were running it. >> the question is whether mueller was -- whether the mandate that was given to him