his father is actually an oligarch with deep ties to putin. sources indicate that for more than a year now the special counsel is working to secure that interview. unclear if it actually does take place. it will be interesting to see how that wrinkle of this investigation plays out. >> boris sanchez, thank you. let's dig into this more now with cnn senior political analyst david gergen. i'm always glad to have you on our show. the reason jay said trump wasn't involved in drafting his son's statement is because he had bad information. is he basically saying his client, the president, wasn't even honest with him to begin with? >> there are so many things strange about this, anna. i think we start with a proposition that this goes back to the old truism from watergate. the cover-up is often much worse than what may have occurred, whatever crime may have occurred. in this case, the constant evolution, constant changing of evolution of this story coming