allegations that the chairman steven kalk of the federal savings bank given paul manafort favorable loans because he was angling for a position in the trump administration. so as part of the prosecution's case they showed an e-mail in which paul manafort is recommending steven calk to be the secretary of the army. he sends that e-mail to jared kushner. jared kushner responds on it. we have not heard anymore about that but it is a piece of evidence that will go to the jury, jim, when they pick up deliberations as early as tomorrow. >> clearly at least out of the expectation of some influence with the administration. just final question. i mean, there's been a lot of speculation of the case and some surprised that the defense did not mount a defense. is there a concern among prosecutors, for instance, manafort is playing for a pardon here? >> that's always a potential option. you know, nothing to that element has come up in court.