wall street journal" approached them. lie, lie, lie. now there's a lawsuit and the apartment raided. they find out all the lies he told and if it was directly related to the election and took legal actions to suppress information from voters, that's a bigger deal politically. >> do you think so? do you think it damages president trump more than the fact or the allegation of the affair has done? >> like you said, i don't think the allegation of the affairs actually would have done that much damage. it is all these problems created in the way they dealt with it. now, ill guess another argument you can make for why he keeps it quiet, i may be mixing mcdougall and stormy. when they were married. >> just had their son. >> another reason to want to hide it beyond -- >> the timing. the timing of which is unusual which is that it happens after the video. protect his wife. any time to care.