>> it was legally misguided in this instance because had they asserted executive privilege -- that's the privilege that they could have asserted. i'm not saying at the end of the day they would have prevailed had it gone to court. it may not have. the assertion of it would have enabled them to help negotiate the terms of the interview with mr. mcgahn and certainly to ensure that they would have the opportunity for a debriefing. the likelihood is that all of the things they wanted -- that long litany of questions they planned to ask the question, they asked don mcgahn what the president had to say about all of those things. they have firsthand eyewitness -- >> right. it's not the same as asking what was your intent to the source. >> but it is -- it's the next