this backdoor effort of constant berating and attacks on the attorney general, so the attorney general will resign. and i think sessions deserves enormous credit for standing up to the president, showing backbone, and integrity by remaining in office. >> your reaction, robert? >> i agree with my colleague here. and i'm surprised that i am. not that i agree with you. but he is doing what he's supposed to be doing and not letting politics influence what the justice department is supposed to be doing. now it's interesting to me, when i was appointed to head prosecutor, and you know this, by the governor, i can only be removed for cause. i can't be browbeat out of that office. i think they need to do something so this can't happen again. nevertheless, i'll say one last point, it's interesting to me that the president is so upset about what he's doing with the justice department, because i handled criminal defense cases and when they pass policies that that you have to tappeal to a defense, and the draconian plead