issues and after some deliberation it was decided there was nothing wrong with the ada nominating but a preferred role in the constitutional nomination process was unfair in some ways. >> fair description of the federalist society's role in your selection as the nominee to say that it was preferred over other groups? >> well, my experience was when justice kennedy retired on a wednesday, mr. mcgahn called me later that afternoon, said we need to talk on friday. he came over to my office on friday evening or late afternoon. we talked for three or four hours. interview in going through the usual kind of questions you would go through when you're embarking on a process like this. i met with -- interviewed with the president on monday morning. >> so is it your testimony that