i think dana is right, only the beginning, a reflection how it's being handle by the president, by all accounts is poorly. we will get into it tonight. what does it mean for the trump white house? what does it mean on the other side of this notion of what's going on in the white house, all done in the shadow of this kavanaugh hearing, who is someone else who could go by the title of anonymous right now because we don't know anything about the guy from these hearings. >> that's true. chris starts in 18 minutes. and the president will be speaking and it will be interesting if he actually talks about this or tries to distract with something else. i'm sure you'll follow up on that. and breaking news tonight talking with new jersey senator cory booker, whether he would recuse himself as to president trump and the mueller investigation make their way to the high court. we'll talk about all the drama ahead. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,