like to see an internal investigation, whether justice decides to launch it and under what criteria. >> they say national security. could justice -- can you see them actually launching an investigation into this? >> short answer, no. >> all right. >> the reason they keep invoking national security, the traditional law that administrations invoke when they're on leak hunts is the espionage of 1917. they have a shoe hornet into that parameter to have that fit. there's no indication in the op-ed that anything like classified information or national security was revealed. that's the peg they're going for and that's the reason they keep invoking it, as they keep this hunt on. >> alex, when it comes to the woodward book, fascinating piece with bob woodward, his first interview. let's listen to part of what he said. >> you look at the operation of this white house and you have to say, let's hope to god we don't