obviously i feel the same way, especially as a minority. all women in my family -- i'm the only boy. i feel the same way. i just know that sometimes for me, you know you have to conduct yourself in a way, right? but it's a very -- it's highly intense, very competitive sport. so, you know, it got the best of her. >> i think that's true, but maybe the greatest athlete of all time, high pressure environment, and just at the end of the day from where i sit, i think ramos could have handled it much better. i don't think there's any doubt -- you can roll the tape -- that there are men who have done things much more aggressively. i love john mcenroe. i tried to pattern myself after him. >> are you kidding me? that's mcenroe. >> when you call somebody a thief -- i mean they used expletives and any were not pgaizpg penalized. >> i think we all agree on that. very well said. let's talk about this because you wrote a powerful piece for "usa today." racial reconciliation will help us live up to our nation's values. you say there's no better time