document you have in frupt ont you, wolf, is that paul manafort had a complicated scheme to hide who his client was. he set up this sort of phony think tank and there were pr firms and law firms who cooperated in this because, quite frankly, they wanted the money. and they were getting paid a lot of money to do it. what struck me in reading all of this was somebody from one company a noted to another company employee that they knew who they were lobbying for even though it had a fake name, and this person said, it's like alyce alice in wonderland. and the employee of another company described the center, as it was called, the fig leaf on a fig leaf. so they knew exactly what they were doing and they were hiding it from members of congress that they were going to lobby. so this is a different kind of swamp. i mean, this is a deeper, darker, illegal swamp.