hundreds. i think it's 65 that came around kavanaugh. >> even fewer now willing to talk on the record. >> what we know is this, okay, and those women were testifying to dr. ford's character. fair enough, be it 65, 200 -- i thought it was 200 with judge kavanaugh. >> control room is checking. >> let's say 65. i'll concede that. what we had, what we know from the me too movement, folks like kevin spacey, weinstein, i feel awful saying this, even bill cosby, there is a pattern of behavior. this thing doesn't just happen. >> that's true. fair enough. >> in terms of a pattern of behavior, based on the testimony of -- i believe it's 200 but let's say 65, 65 women judge kavanaugh has mentored, gone to school with, dated, worked with, all testified to his character. that's the only pattern we have right now.