otherwise what is the reason for coming to this point? >> she needs to testify with or without the investigation. i think that if shi testifies and comes off as extremely believable. and credible. and sincere. i think that will put the pressure the pressure will switch from her to the white house. to order the fbi to extend the background investigation. that is how it would come about if she's believable. if she can't remember any of the specifics of the event, or people that she cites adds witnesses or other people that can verify the story, don't verify the story. that will be difficult for her. >> the judiciary committee is offering to send its staff members to talk with ford. their goal is of course is get kavanaugh confirmed. the questions they ask will not be the same the fbi would ask. it's o political process.