we will -- we won't know unless there is an investigation, and that's the whole point of it, right? when bill cosby was initially accused, many people for many years could not believe it. the women's accounts were questioned. it took a very long time and a lot of investigating and multiple proceedings before there was a verdict as to the truth of what really happened. this is what you need when you want to determine a finding of fact. and legal experts like our jeffrey toobin, well, they point out that's what's missing in what's being planned in washington for thursday. a real investigation. it might get us closer to the truth, to the facts. it might clear judge kavanaugh, or it might validate his accusers' accounts. republican senator lisa murkowski made the same point to our manu raju today. >> should there be a full fbi investigation into these allegations from kavanaugh's past?