aren't. >> and thnot to put that -- >> and not to put that on everyone else. it seems they're both credible and they both believe what they believe. it's possible dr. ford remembers wrong. it's also possible that brett kavanaugh remembers wrong. do you find it credible that he has no memory blackout? he sometimes drinks to excess. >> he said that under oath. we have people who knew him from the time, dozens of people who say that they find him credible, that this is -- that allegations don't line up at all with what they're saying as well as everyone she places at the scene doesn't remember it. some of them also say, you know, her friend says i don't think i even knew him. other people say this sounds nothing like brett kavanaugh. we have a lot of corroborating testimony. he said it under oath.