susan, the new york tienlz is reporting that former trump campaign rick gates sought from an israeli intel firm in 2016 to help defeat hillary clinton and republican primary opponents. they report there's no evidence that the trump campaign acted on it, but how significant is this information in this report? >> well, you know, ryan compared the mueller investigation to that, you know, iceberg that keeps just floating on. you occasionally see evidence of it. this is a fascinating subplot in the mueller investigation that suggests there's a whole story there that may emerge to be much more significant in terms of the connections between the trump campaign and efforts to bring in people to manipulate the election. that's fundamentally what this story is about. it's a really interesting, provocative report. by the way, it features donald trump jr. in the story as also having had a meeting with a key person involved in this story. this is an israeli firm that