with the broader republican party because they sort of sugar cote their extremism. they say they're not white supremacists even if you track their members and you monitor what they're doing in the real world, those facts just don't show up. so what we're seeing is an unofficial alliance of sorts where mainstream republicans can sort of outsource the political and physical violence that they'd like to enact against opponents. >> they call themselves -- i think people call them instead of alt right alt light. right? >> right. >> you spoke to one. quickly tell me what you found out. >> i spoke to their lawyer, jason van dyke, who told me that they do enjoy a bit of a -- a bit of a fandom among more mainstream republicans. not all of them. he said, you know, more neoconservatives, more traditional republicans still don't align with them. but there's a certain populist trumpist segment of the party that really finds a kinship with these extremists.