for the middle east, gone. billions of dollars and weapons, gone. jobs by the thousands and thousands, gone, so be careful. >> you should always be careful. but in state craft, things are never walk away or give in. you lose -- you use the leverage that you have. we have substantial leverage over the saudis. this gives us even more leverage. >> more? >> yes, because they're in a disadvantaged situation with respect to us and it is bared to everyone of how needful they are in this relationship. remember, oil isn't what it used to be. and so they need us. for example, their military isn't that proficient yet. remember, their style has been to pay others -- >> proxies. >> -- to fight for them rather than to fight for themselves. they need to get better so that
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