trade or immigration, it's a quote/unquote national security threat. in other words, i have to make you feel afraid of that other human being so you can help me divide and conquer. we're seeing this after hurricane katrina, people all over the world came to help us. they came and it made a difference when people reached up in our darkest hours, had angels among us, lifted us up. lifting people up is a lot better than pushing them down. you may win in the short term by hating, but at the end of the day, it's going to lose in the long term, as it should. >> it's great you bring up the response to the various storms. i look to that when people say where do you see evidence of people treating each other nicely, as americans, regardless of race, creed, et cetera. and i know you have experienced it there, and we have seen it in other parts of the country. >> i'll say this to you. i know that washington, d.c. is broken. it can't function, it can't get anything done, but all across america, every day, people are