>> not that i know of. >> i've been told that because i've been asked to give an affidavit which i prepared to be submitted to the court. you know, harry truman had it right. he had advice for all sorts of public officials, anda that is when they heard things they didn't like, uncomfortable questions, remember this, he said. if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. >> it sometimes is that simple, isn't it? for any president, for any politician. >> well, the president -- the president seems to believe that if he wants to doing some, it should be done. constitution aside, congress aside, certainly other than his base the american people aside. and it doesn't work that way. and he's not going to get away with it. >> sam, how is this going to end? how do you see this period in history ending? >> i think it ends with a change in -- i hope the president's attitude. i believe in forgiveness and redemption of sin. but, it's going to change