>> you know why? because so many people are still alive. >> people love you. >> yeah, they have to say that. how can you say something mean about somebody who might be mean back at you? >> it's an industry. ♪ ♪ >> people ask, what was it like the first time you saw iggy? i didn't see him. i heard the music from down the hall. i thought, this is the rock and roll i always wanted to hear, something that was this fierce and yet there was a tune there. >> when i was in high school, i was immediately ostracized. this was defining music and normal people didn't like it. >> the ramons met because they