mueller worked under obama. why do that? >> two things. he's a grown-a man as they say. how are you going to stop a grown man from doing what he wants to do? >> politicians get stopped from doing things and get made to do things all the time by those around them. >> and he knows there's a certain segment of the population who will believe whatever he says regardless -- >> he's banking on it. that's why i have that segment, "don't be a sucker." because he's playing you for a fool and hoping you that believe him over everything else. but he's open to suggestion. the federalist society gave him a list of judges, don. they were waiting for him to call them and ask them questions. the call never came. he just took the list and went right with what they wanted. so you know, he's open to suggestion when he wants to be. >> we should do that show together. i'll help you with your idea. i'll help your idea come to fruition. >> don't be a sucker? >> yeah, don't be a sucka. don't be a sucka, sucka. it sounds like -- >> i'm gonna git you, sucka. >> fred sanford. you old fish-eye fool.