administration never managed to. >> playing that sound is extraordinary, and it does show what the problem here is for donald trump politically. whatever the charge might be, we have the video of donald trump loving them to death. it's weird for a president to love someone being charged for anythi anything. >> it's important to point out what the first amendment issue is here because it is difficult. what happened in just a general way is someone gave classified information to wikileaks, to julian asang, and he published it. journalists do it. bob woodward has made a brilliant career of getting classified information and then publishing it. is that a crime? historically, the justice department has not -- >> but lots of people have stopped -- >> but how do you -- how do you