look, as long as he's not a mime, i'm okay with it. >> eric: he's definitely not a mime. >> anthony: even the smell of mime makeup, i start to tremble with fear. >> eric: so it's a phobia? >> anthony: it's a serious phobia. don't like it. mimes, clowns, nurse's shoes. those white nurse's shoes. >> eric: oh, the clogs. >> anthony: no, they're like super comfortable like, and they're white, but not like super white because they've been, you know walking through various bodily fluids, and there's a little speck of blood or urine on it. that's true terror. wow. >> eric: bravo. >> lionel: you just can't panic in these cases. no panic. if you do the plane like this, if there is wind or not you keep