person who sits here and sort of is a moderator of the political debates, to see this -- these sorts of numbers in mississippi, as i said to john, it's surprising to me. >> i think it is somewhat surprising insofar as this is a state where a democratic senate candidate hasn't won since 1982. i democratic gubernatorial has not received a majority of the votes since 1987. you have to go all the way back to the '50s for a democratic presidential candidate to receive a majority of the vote. so the fact that espy was at least somewhat closer than you might have expected given the first rounding of voting when the democrats only added up to 42% of the vote does indicate to me that some of hyde-smith's comments might have hurt her. >> let's dig in a little more about that. listen, if she does inwith,win, is a win. her cements aboomments about at public hanging, do you think these dog whistles had an impact? >> marginally.