baker, the president's best friend. and i covered him extensively when he was secretary of state, white house chief of staff. i got to know him. i traveled with him when he was secretary of state. and he was a powerful figure. but when he broke down, we saw him crying yesterday because his best friend was gone, that was a surprise to me because that side of james baker i have never seen. >> i agree. i had never seen him cry either all these years. he's a tough man. i was surprised at that. i interviewed him for 41 on 41. he never broke down. when i interviewed bob gates, he broke down, and he's another guy that doesn't break down easily. he said i would walk-through fire for george bush. that's this feeling of comradedy and lifting up his friends when times get tough. he's right there. >> it was a beautiful moment.