it seems, anderson, at this hour, he's more upset with michael cohen for turning against him and cooperating with the feds more so than being upset with the actual content of what michael cohen is saying at this point. >> i mean, again, the president's calling him a liar now. this is the man that the president employed for years and years and years as his incredibly close confidant, attorney, fixer, handling what michael cohen calls dirty deeds. now all of a sudden, the president says he's a liar. what does it say about the president that he had michael cohen as his, you know, fixer all this time if, you know, he has been a liar all this time? i'm wondering what cohen's advisers are saying about what's next. >> reporter: anderson, it doesn't sound like michael cohen is finished talking about this ordeal. this very long saga working for president trump. i talked to lanny davis who was his attorney during the case. one of his attorneys during the case that was just adjudicated in the southern district of new york and now is serving as an adviser to michael cohen. he's saying the former fixer as