mcdougal, i assume, and could be about anything he did with president trump. >> anything. remember, his relationship goes back many years with the president of the united states, when he was citizen donald trump, and all the people with the last name, trump, as well in his business dealings. remember, the sdny has actually given him quite a great roadmap of how he could cooperate through that rule 35 sort of motion that says that if you give substantial assistance, i could seek to reduce your sentence even after the judge has already ordered three years. but they've told him, you have to be not a confirmer, telling us what we already know and telling us great job, attaboy there, you got it all right. tell us what we did not know. what you are in the unique position to tell us. things that are uncharged. and for that, that's what they're looking for. that doesn't affect whether or not mueller would ask for jail