now we're back now with our wonderful team of analysts to talk about a new apology from an outgoing senior u.s. senator. orrin hatch initially asked, as you guys know, about donald trump being implicated in these felonies that michael cohen pled guilty to and he essentially said, i don't care, he's doing a great job as president. he has now reversed that. what do you think about that, laura? >> it is a stark reversal. especially in d.c., you don't see people backtrack. it took him a couple of ways, he didn't do it right away, but manu raju chases lawmakers all over capital hill every day asking what they think about the fact that these close associates of the president pled bliguilty are implicated in crimes. most don't strongly confirm it