date. moving forward this role is different than when the president came in. we have looking forward to 2020. we also have actions we need to take with congress under new democratic leadership in the house, and we also have the mueller probe circling in. the chief of staff really needs to encompass being able to prioritize all of these as well as looking at the overall communications of this administration and overseeing the of staff part and working with the staff. i would not be surprised if this president takes this role in a different direction. a lot of this he can and is doing himself. it's not a big deal. i don't truly understand the breathless reporting on the time he is taking to fill this very important role because this is up to the president how he wants to do things and it's been different than any other presidents have. i think the staff assignments and titles will be different. >> there have been presidents in the past who haven't had chiefs of staff. i think the last one was jimmy carter in his early years and then things kind of got a little busy for him. jim, when you look at mulvaney