us. have a very lap pi nhappy new y >> thank you. happy new year. joining us kiersten powers and mike shields and michael sheer. kiersten, i want to start with you. this is a question i asked the congressman. what do you make of the president's threats to close the southern border and cut off aid to the central american countries? are these things that he can do? are these threats that we should take seriously? is this just as we suggested at the top, just venting at the wall? >> well, look, he is the president. when he says something, i think we should take it seriously. i think there's been plenty of things that people have shrugged off that he ends up following through on. i think he is making some pretty dangerous threats, in particular in terms of shutting down the border, which would have the potential of throwing us into a recession.