tribune" reported that another migrant caravan is on its way, leaving in january, mid-january, and basically president trump is going to have another immigration crisis on his hands, and this particular caravan is supposed to be somewhere around 15,000 people, according to organizers who are rallying these people together. so, president trump has to act soon and get something done with respect to, you know, construction of the border wall. he's talked about shutting down ports of entry or shutting down the border altogether. that might help at least with getting the democrats to the table, but right now, it's up in the air. >> okay, all right, we got a very finite amount of time but i want both of you on the record here, we're taping this, kelly, who caves first? >> the republicans. >> republicans. all right. siraj? >> you know, chuck schumer and nancy pelosi caved last time. i can't see them doing it again. i think trump will at least have a partial win. he will get some funding but he