let's sit down. but here's what we're doing. they think that mexico, because this is anti-mexican rhetoric, right? mexicans are murderers, rapists, killers, so we're going to build a wall. but what's the fact? today there aren't as many tsa agents as there should be, there aren't as many people at hom homeland security as there should be. how do you enter america, how do millions of people enter america legally? through airports. so our airports are being weakened and our defense -- and the tragedy of september 11th happened through the airports not the border. >> what i'm looking at is for a solution here, amy. if you were watching the show, amy, you saw the mother that we just had on. by the way, she's not a one-off. it's not right for american families to pay the price for our politicians not being able to cut a deal, amy. i don't see how this shutdown is an acceptable mechanism for