>> that's true. >> for a lot of aspirational voters, trump was a path for prosperity for them. he was the rich guy who didn't fit into the club and would help pull them into trump tower. i mean this is sort of what trump university is all about, selling "art of the deal." "the apprentice," this was his brand. whether or not that comes true or not, you know, we can judge that in terms of his legacy. >> amanda is exactly right. >> alice needs to get in. alice needs to get in. >> don, what the president also did -- and chris outlined the stark contrast between president donald trump and a lot of blue collar rust belt voters across this country. but what he managed to convince them was that he was not your rich mitt romney guy. i was in a lot of focus groups when romney was running for president and the word they often used for him was plastic. you ask a lot of voters what they think of donald trump and they say he's a scrapper. take the money aside, he's someone they would take