on by the white house, by the president to make this decision about deripaska. that's really the key issue here. what explains the decision? >> we know that deripaska is like a big team of lobbyists and p.r. folks leaned on the white house against these sanctions and they took a while to implement. the give mark is that the three companies he runs, he'll reduce his controlling from 75% to 45%. is that just optics? does it change anything for him? >> not in terms of, you know, the power he's going to exercise. that's significant or certainly his fortune. it may be just a cosmetic change meant for optics, as you said. i think stepping back we have to look at this whole issue of sanctions. sanctions that were imposed throughout the obama