walters was so trusted by the russians, he was the interpreter for both sides. nobody else was in the room. we don't even know if there are any notes left. i imagine he threw them away. >> we do know the russians have notes and very detailed notes and you imagine that could be leverage over this president given they know what was in that conversation. the president in that meeting thinking he's negotiating on his own not understanding he's a representative of the american people, the american interests, and we have a right to those notes. >> i totally agree with that. one other point, it's not just about his staff. it's really important that the secretary of state and secretary of defense, the national security adviser, the principals to the president, the people who are with him in the situation room in high-powered meetings, they need to know what's been said in those meetings. >> he was with him in hamburg, was very nondescript. >> he's been in and out and didn't really debrief the state department. >> no, not at all. >> the idea -- "the new york