personal belongings. they sold some baby toys, some furniture, and even part of their baseball card collection. what they really need is gas money. that's because harper has so many doctors appointments, and some of them, anderson, are 30 and 40 miles but on top of worrying about gas money and harper, they're also worried about getting evicted because they may not have the rent money. chris can't believe it. he does have a job. he is a federal worker, but because he isn't bringing home a paycheck, they could lose their apartment and become homeless. >> i'm glad you told their story. thank you. i want to check in with chris and see what he was working on at the top of the hour. you see a story like that and then you hear what the commerce secretary said, they should just get loans, it's unbelievable how disconnected. >> they just don't get, so the pain is real, we know that.