sort all of this out. so they found one innocent explanation where you have, again, just dozens of shovels and a lot of holes that have been dug to bury key evidence, whether it was roger stone or michael cohen, who have already been indicted for the lies that they told around this case. so, sure, if donald trump jr. did not call his father, we can put that to rest. what i don't understand, though, why did the house republicans not just subpoena these records two years ago when we wanted to see them when we could have put it to rest then? >> congressman swalwell, appreciate your time. thanks very much. >> my pleasure. thanks, anderson. coming up, is it a wall, a barrier, a fence, steel slats? linguistically, are democrats and republicans really that far apart on what to call a structure on the southern border with next? and could striking a deal actually come down to that fine of a point? we're keeping them honest, next. i'll speak with a lawmaker involved in the finer negotiations, in a moment.