someone like that on their bench, but he was ridiculed mercilessly for that spartacus moment at the brett kavanaugh hearing. some democrats km complain he is a bit of a grandstander. he had a mixed bag as a record as mayor of newark. does he have some liabilities? >> i think he may have some liabilities. i do think though that one of his greatest experiences was losing his first attempt at mayor in newark. and the way sharp james went after him, which was that he was this kind of boarish guy that came in, was not connected with the people, sharp james brought the entire old school machine against him. i think in a sense that toughened him up in a way that will make him formidable against a donald trump who would try and