people at their most desperate and ugly that you become desensitized and maybe even turn into a monster. >> alex: just think about it. everyday they're looking at the worst of society and maybe they have a partner that gets killed or shot. it's all very overwhelming. many turn to alcohol and drugs to medicate. and i'm not trying to be an apologist for the police, because you know, they do need to be held accountable. but we need to help them, we really do because they are out there and they're the ones who are going to show up at your home. >> anthony: mexican-american, living in east l.a. and a victim of a crime, you calling the police? expecting a sympathetic response, i mean, generally speaking, what do you think the -- ? >> alex: i think most police officers show up being ready to help out, they certainly have to do their job. >> anthony: but what do you