front of a judge, and in front of federal investigators, and then you say, well, you know, i don't really like jail, because i don't feel very good. and i have health issues. you know, i understand there's a double jeopardy question. i understand there's questions about whether the public will view this in one way or the other. but as someone who investigated, when you lie, you're going to have to pay the price. and one of the prices is, you're going to spend some time getting three hots and a cot. three meals at my taxpayer dollars and a room and a federal prison. i don't feel that sympathetic. he should have told the truth. end of story. >> phil, i never want you testifying against me. >> that's going to happen one day, anderson. you're done. >> if it does happen, i am done. phil, thank you very much. shan woo, ken cuccinelli, thank you very much. coming up next, the president preparing for what michael cohen might tell congress next week. there is late word on new information he's already given to federal prosecutors, as you'll see. the subject matter in question lives squarely on the far side of one of the president's red lines. we'll talk to maggi haberman about that. and breaking news in the r.