president's declaration has been a, quote unquote, antithetical -- has been antithetical to conservatism. he's matt lewis. he's got a new column at the daily beast and it's called "we have finally normalized trumpism." and the zinger line at the end is this. "they say you never stand so tall as when you stoop to" -- can i say this on cnn? "kiss someone's ass. if 24s trthis is true, then tru surrounded by giants." matt lewis with the zinger. good to have you back, matt. that's quite a statement. can you tell me what you mean? >> well, in writing columns if you have a good lead, the opening, and a good kicker, the ending, then you've got a good column. >> congratulations. >> i think i succeeded at that. no, look, there's a real conundrum i think republicans have. let's look at lindsey graham as an example. >> sure. >> you have the choice to kind of stand up and be brave and tell the truth about donald trump in the case of the emergency order that it's not