place. ly. you're always grappling with was cohen a yes man, or was he a people pleaseer which i gleaned from a public pause. if you're an approximate if -- i have a legendary hook to. so it's a harder case. to your point, though, mob trials are often tried on that circumstantial evidence of other corroborate ration. other things that say, based on that implicit understanding, i acted. and i was either trade. it's a heard case, and what he did was significant. it's a harder sell. >> that's if there is no