>> it was certainly something to have five white house aides in the room to validate the president who says he did not have a temper tantrum. obviously i wonder if he would have, would they have said it on television. hard to believe they would have. that said, it's clear that this narrative of the president's raging and fuming to democratic leaders is really annoying him. you know, repeatedly he's tweeted about it, he's had a staff validate him publicly. rudy giuliani and others are saying that it's just beneath nancy pelosi to make attacks that say he's incompetent or erratic. but if you took pelosi's folks which i have for a story we're working on, they say essentially he does things that don't make sense. he behaves in -- in unusual ways. unorthodox ways, in ways that veer and careen from one side to the other. and that she calls it as she sees it. so it's an escalation of words that certainly is getting worse and worse by the day, not better. >> and josh, before you go, i